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This is a ridiculously simple version of the page that I hope gets heavily added to, I just wanted to get something up for her that people could build on.--WikiSysop 04:24, 16 May 2006 (MST)

Did they ever give Serena a last name?

There's some who claim that she had some kind of anglicised last name (a la Amy Anderson) but I can't really remember what it was. The consesnsus is that it's just Tsukino though. Dooky 08:49, 16 May 2006 (MST)
The anglicised name that pops up most often is Campbell but I dunno if that is official at all or just a popular fanon term. However I believe Cloverway refer to her as Serena Tsukino. GracieLizzie 09:05, 16 May 2006 (MST)
Campbell, that's the bunny (un, no pun intended). I think this may have come from the credits of dub episode 1 which (might have) listed Ikuko as 'Mrs Campbell'. For what it's worth, the 'international Sailor Moon' section in the second S season Nakayoshi guide doesn't list surnames for any of the Anerican characters, while it does give them for the French/Chinese dubs etc. Dooky 09:12, 16 May 2006 (MST)
When was the guide published? Is it possible it was printed before it aired?--WikiSysop 09:23, 16 May 2006 (MST)
Interesting... my version says 1997. This is pretty surprising as the first S guide was published in 1995. So... I guess it could be a reprint or something, but in any case, it must have been printed late 1995 at the earliest. (Best ask Ian about this, he knows more about the books than I do) When in 1995 did the sub start airing? Dooky 09:40, 16 May 2006 (MST)
The Cloverway dub used "Tsukino" as her last name. DENelson83 16:50, 31 May 2006 (MST)

Re: Moon Palace computer; as I recall, this was in the manga so the original was correct?--WikiSysop 05:13, 27 May 2006 (MST)

Yes. Just checked it, and it was in manga chapter 10. Dooky 07:03, 27 May 2006 (MST)
Hmm. I won't revert just yet since the new version is arguably correct for the anime (although somewhat speculative). What we really need is sections for different continuities, kids :P Dooky 07:07, 27 May 2006 (MST)

Do you think we could get some anime images of Moon and her friends? DENelson83 16:50, 31 May 2006 (MST)


The pigtail/rabbit ears and jewel/rabbit eyes thing is really stretching it, IMHO. Kerochan no Miko 13:07, 14 July 2006 (MST)

While respecting your view, I've to say that I don't think so. (I haven't done a similar trivia on Chibimoon yet, thought DENelson might be interested to do it.) 210.245.162.185 18:45, 14 July 2006 (MST)
I could see Chibiusa's odango as rabbit ears, myself, but I just honestly don't see it on Usagi. And didn't we already go over the "rabbit eyes" thing on the Talk:sailor fuku page? Kerochan no Miko 19:20, 14 July 2006 (MST)
I'm with KnM. I can just about buy the rabbit ear/pigtail thing, but this business with the eyes is verging on the ridiculous. Unless somebody can provide a source backing this theory up, I'd recommend that mentions of it are removed. Dooky 19:22, 14 July 2006 (MST)
Ok, done. 210 19:39, 14 July 2006 (MST)
Couldn't you also argue that Super Sailor Moon's outfit makes her look like a butterfly? (her pigtails being antennae and her shoulder pads and elongated bow being like a butterfly's wings)WaterKnight 12:46, 25 December 2007 (MST)
I would say that was definitely the intent of the Super costume. Kerochan no Miko 15:07, 25 December 2007 (MST)
Yeah, you could add that into the trivia section. --210 23:37, 25 December 2007 (MST)


If you guys don't like my latest trivia addition, just take it away. Won't argue. lol 210 22:20, 17 July 2006 (MST)

...if you know that it's farfetched then why even put it in? Kerochan no Miko 22:55, 17 July 2006 (MST)
Just to see if it's that farfetched. ^^ 210 06:53, 18 July 2006 (MST)

When Sailor Moon becomes Princess Sailor Moon in PGSM, is it considered a transformation? WaterKnight 14:28, 9 December 2007 (MST)

I guess so, at least basing on the meaning of the word, but then it's the one very different from the "standard" ones. --210 17:37, 9 December 2007 (MST)
It's a transformation similar to the Sailor Moon -> Super Sailor Moon one, and it does have a "sequence" and everything - the only thing lacking is a transformation phrase. I suppose it could be listed as "unnamed transformation" or something. Kerochan no Miko 17:44, 9 December 2007 (MST)
Yes, that's similar - what I said "very different" is referring to PGSM only, but then you might also regard the "Sailor Moon -> Super Sailor Moon" one as non-"standard." And yeah, "Unnamed Transformation," as per the "Unnamed Attack" we're currently using, works. --210 18:27, 9 December 2007 (MST)

Costume/colours[edit]

Are these sections really necessary in the articles? It looks weird having a one-line section there, plus we have pictures that illustrate these things better. Not to mention that many of these primary colours are up to interpretation (much like the 'auras' thing). dooky 19:54, 18 August 2006 (MST)

Either someone expands it shortly or the section should be deleted I think. 210 20:01, 18 August 2006 (MST)
We have pretty detailed descriptions of costumes in the Sailor fuku article. Maybe we should move those to the relevant articles, and leave just a generic description in the fuku article? That makes more sense to me. Elanorea 04:11, 19 August 2006 (MST)
Agreed. But it'll take some more efforts to integrate it since some Senshi articles already have a well-flesh-out costume section/description, as I recall it. 210 04:38, 19 August 2006 (MST)

I'm seeing that the portions that are dark red in the anime version of Eternal Sailor Moon's costume (fittings on gloves and shoulder pads, second layer of skirt, boot edging, and ribbons) are really dark pink/magenta in the manga artbooks. It could be the same thing with the dark blue portions of the costume that are made black in the anime (or just appear black). I'm also debating whether Eternal Sailor Moon's shoulder pads (as well as the third manga forms of the Senshi) are see-through or not. WaterKnight 17:09, 18 November 2007 (MST)

While I've no strong opinions for or against what you've said, just a reminder that Takeuchi wasn't very consistent in her illustrations, aside of outright errors. She actually was quite liberal in some of them, for overall aesthetic/artistic considerations or else (plain naughtiness? lol). Another factor to be considered is possible inaccuracies during the 4(maybe more)-color separation process in printing. --210 17:51, 18 November 2007 (MST)

hey, on the topic of costumes, I think we should create articles on the different forms that the senshi take? Not like one article for eternal sailor moon one for eternal sailor Venus, but like, Eternal form, Super form, regular form etc. And then just list info about the abilities that this form gives, the changes from the previous form and all that jazz. Opinions? (This unsigned comment was left by Sailor-Star-Lover, July 12, 2010)

It's been discussed before, and the general consensus has been to fill out the many, many stub articles before splitting up ones that don't really need it as yet. Kerochan no Miko 16:53, 12 July 2010 (MST)

Anime img[edit]

Wanted. ^^ 210 05:33, 25 August 2006 (MST)

Thx. ^^ 210 18:32, 29 August 2006 (MST)

Attacks[edit]

What on earth are "1-γ-1" and "1-ζ-1"? Kerochan no Miko 18:29, 29 August 2006 (MST)

I guess they're math symbols. 210 18:34, 29 August 2006 (MST)
That still doesn't answer the question of what they have to do with Sailor Moon and her attacks. Kerochan no Miko 18:49, 29 August 2006 (MST)
Oh, I just presumed that they're unrelated because they're too complicated for me to handle. 210 19:20, 29 August 2006 (MST)
Oh, you've once again run into my shorthand code system. I used those codes instead of the command names because the edit summary will only allow so many characters. I won't use them on the talk pages themselves.
The first number refers to the Senshi using the command (see [1]). The second field is a Greek letter, and it identifies the order of that command's first appearance in the first series it is used in. So if that letter was α (alpha, the first Greek letter), the corresponding command would be the first one to debut in its series. The second number is the "level" of the attack, corresponding to which anime series it was first used in (1 also identifies PGSM). Put the three fields together, and you get a unique identifier for every command the Senshi use.
In 1-γ-1, γ (gamma) identifies the third unique command used by Senshi #1 (Moon) in the first series of the Sailor Moon anime. That command would be Moon Healing Escalation.
Complicated? Yes. That's why I'm only going to use those codes in edit summaries. Idiosyncratic? Yes. But you can always ask me to stop. -- DENelson83 22:56, 29 August 2006 (MST)
...okay, then could you stop? Kerochan no Miko 23:00, 29 August 2006 (MST)
Sure. See? It's that easy. -- DENelson83 23:04, 29 August 2006 (MST)
Yes, it's much easier when both parties are willing to communicate clearly. Thank you. Kerochan no Miko 00:37, 30 August 2006 (MST)

^ My thx also. As I've told you before, my intelligence only allows me to recognize #1-5 & no more (& I've got a small head, literally). 210 04:28, 30 August 2006 (MST)

Uniform?[edit]

This could be confused w/ her Juuban school uniform, & the contents beneath still refer to it as "costume". I think "costume" is better. 210 02:26, 18 September 2006 (MST)

Latest Version[edit]

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Reverting it now. 210 21:21, 23 September 2006 (MST)

Kerochan has already done it. So it's vandal. Long time no see.210 21:25, 23 September 2006 (MST)

Moon Tiara Boomerang[edit]

In the new cover edition manga what used to be called "Moon Frisbee" is now "Moon Tiara Boomerang" (see new cover edition vol.1 p.41). Davi Williams 19:02, 25 March 2007 (MST)

As was noted in the Moon Frisbee article. Kerochan no Miko 19:03, 25 March 2007 (MST)
My bad, thanks. Davi Williams 19:10, 25 March 2007 (MST)

Forms[edit]

I think the article would look a lot better without the list of different forms with the images - it's kind of messy-looking right now, IMHO. Kerochan no Miko 22:13, 18 November 2007 (MST)

I've always been thinking that, even tho I've edited it a bit to make it look less messy in the past. It's also far too inconsistent w/ other similar articles. --210 22:24, 18 November 2007 (MST)


Associates[edit]

I have one question: I was looking at her Character Information block, and in the Associates section, there is "Luna, Solar System Senshi" written, shouldn't we also add Artemis? I know that "big" fans know he's an associate, but just to make it more accurate and complete, can we add it? Mysticienne 18:50, 11 April 2008 (MST)

As the lead character, she actually has way more "associates" than her current ones, whom I guess are meant to be her "closest" ones. ATM I've no opinion on whether to expand it & how far it should be expanded, tho. --210 20:50, 12 April 2008 (MST)
As 210 said, it's fairly obvious she has more associates than just them - but if we added all of them, the list would be overwhelmingly huge. Those are the people with whom she was most closely associated, and Artemis was more Minako's than Usagi's, so IMHO it's fine how it is. Kerochan no Miko 08:03, 13 April 2008 (MST)

Ok, I was simply asking a question. Mysticienne 12:01, 18 April 2008 (MST)

And your question was answered. Is there a problem...? Kerochan no Miko 13:31, 18 April 2008 (MST)

Fuku Colors[edit]

It's not that noticeable in the artbooks, but when you compare a picture of Sailor Moon and Sailor Mars side by side in any official picture they are in together, you notice that the red on Sailor Moon's fuku is actually a redish pink. Just thought I'd throw that out there. MusicallyObsessedBoi 19:49, 12 April 2010 (MST)

It is sometimes red, but often it can be clearly seen to be pink, such as in the images used on this wiki, but Kerochan seems determined to disagree that it is ever pink. Alice 22:49, 27 November 2011 (MST)
Considering that you never brought it up for discussion, I'm not sure how you can tell what my opinion on the matter is. o_O Kerochan no Miko 23:25, 27 November 2011 (MST)
My guess is that she can tell it from the fact that you reverted her edits which mentioned dark pink. ^_^ I'd rather not get into this discussion, even though I do see those parts as pinkish-red... what's that color called... crimson? But it depends on the picture: sometimes it's only a slightly different shade of red that Mars's fuku, sometimes goes all the way to magenta. You can't tell for sure. --YnK 11:14, 28 November 2011 (MST)
I reverted the edits because it's something that needs to be discussed rather than simply summarily changed to fit one person's opinion. As you say, you can't really tell for sure - it's certainly more pink than the red in Mars' fuku, but that doesn't mean it isn't red. If we start getting into nitpicking the exact shades of red things could get ridiculous, so it seems perfectly fine to me to say it's red and not start huge arguments over shade. We already had a ridiculous about of bickering over the exact shade of red in Pluto's fuku and I really don't want that again. Kerochan no Miko 13:21, 28 November 2011 (MST)
...I'm afraid that one of the reasons people will want to bring it up is that Sailor Moon's signature/aura color is pink, so pinkish fuku elements seem more logical than red. This is ignoring what PGSM did to her fuku.
Also, "more pink than the red of Mars' fuku" is already kinda-sorta a definition for a shade of color, don't you think? --YnK 13:55, 28 November 2011 (MST)
Pink is more logical, I'm not arguing that at all. It's just that anime Sailor Moon very clearly does not have such an obviously "pink" color that she does in the manga or PGSM. And red that is more pink than another red is still red. I'm not going to change this article to say "her accent color was red but more pink than the red of Mars' fuku" because that's just getting ridiculous. Red is red is red. Kerochan no Miko 14:01, 28 November 2011 (MST)

Also, have any of you noticed that in the anime, her odango gems are the only things that don't change throughout every power upgrade? I think that's pretty cool! MusicallyObsessedBoi 19:52, 12 April 2010 (MST)

Transformations[edit]

Silver Moon Crystal Eternal Power, Make Up? Kerochan no Miko 02:17, 20 April 2011 (MST)

In Kaguya Shima Densetsu, just before LINK. ^_^ I never noticed it until now either. Cartwheelingfiesta 15:40, 20 April 2011 (MST)

Starlight honeymoon in Seramyu[edit]

Starlight honeymoon therapy kiss was performed with a sword once in Seramyu. That was a correct editHave_a_niceity 00:34, 6 May 2011 (MST)

It's covered in the article. The sword was only used once; the attack is normally performed with the Tiare. Correct, perhaps, but not necessary to be noted here. Kerochan no Miko 00:51, 6 May 2011 (MST)
ah okHave_a_niceity 03:58, 6 May 2011 (MST)

"Moon Princess Crash"[edit]

The names fansubbers give to attacks are not official. Kerochan no Miko (talk) 17:58, 22 October 2013 (MST)

Boots[edit]

Sailor Moon's boots had heels prior to her Eternal form, which is why I removed that note. Kerochan no Miko (talk) 22:08, 21 June 2014 (MST)