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:Do you have a source for this supposed preference? --[[User:Kerochan no Miko|Kerochan no Miko]] 17:30, 12 August 2010 (MST)
 
:Do you have a source for this supposed preference? --[[User:Kerochan no Miko|Kerochan no Miko]] 17:30, 12 August 2010 (MST)
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::I think the fact that she chose to write it as "Queen Metaria" in English in the 2003 re-release that she painstakingly re-edited expresses a pretty strong "preference" for that spelling.
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:::Oh dear, here we go again... actually, wait, Naoko wrote "Metaria" in the kanzenban, and yet Kodansha chose "Metalia" for the English re-release? That's strange. Anyway, please sign your comments on talk pages, otherwise it's difficult to follow discussions, not to mention the fact that you're supposed to identify yourself. [[User:Silver 17|Silver]] ([[User talk:Silver 17|talk]]) 06:27, 18 October 2014 (MST)
  
 
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:::I don't think I understand what you're talking about, then. [[User:Kerochan no Miko|Kerochan no Miko]] 02:47, 29 June 2011 (MST)
 
:::I don't think I understand what you're talking about, then. [[User:Kerochan no Miko|Kerochan no Miko]] 02:47, 29 June 2011 (MST)
 
:::: ...Nevermind, I made a Trivia section for that note. I do realise people tend to get annoyed at me because I spend more time asking than doing anything, though. -_-; --[[User:YnK|YnK]] 03:07, 29 June 2011 (MST)
 
:::: ...Nevermind, I made a Trivia section for that note. I do realise people tend to get annoyed at me because I spend more time asking than doing anything, though. -_-; --[[User:YnK|YnK]] 03:07, 29 June 2011 (MST)
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So how long is this obvious translation error going to persist on this wiki?  Why is it not "up for debate" when it's clearly completely wrong and only being maintained out of stubborness?  The latest reprinting of the manga is the THIRD printing that maintains the only english rendering of the character's name as "Queen Metaria."  I think after twenty years, Naoko Takeuchi knows how to spell this characters name right, better than a bunch of fans insisting on "correcting" her.  The Death "Fantom" thing was corrected in the second printing of the re-release, for crap's sake. ''(This unsigned comment was left by [[User:‎68.106.220.231|‎68.106.220.231]], 27 January 2014)''
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:Hello, anonymous contributor, and thank you for your polite and well-reasoned commentary. In the two and a half years since that comment was last made, the official English-language translation of the manga was released by Kodansha, and in that release the name was spelled "Queen Metalia". If you have a reason why we should not be using a spelling that came from an official English-language release of source material, as is this wiki's policy, please feel free to explain it. [[User:Kerochan no Miko|Kerochan no Miko]] ([[User talk:Kerochan no Miko|talk]]) 23:30, 27 January 2014 (MST)
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::Actually, what they got wrong the first time, Anonymous Contributor-san, was the "Deth" (Death) part in "Deth Fantom". "Fantom" seems to be an alternative and perfectly valid spelling, though Ph- looks a lot cooler than F- in this particular English word IMHO. :) [[User:Silver 17|Silver]] ([[User talk:Silver 17|talk]]) 10:00, 6 December 2014 (MST)
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Should this article name be fixed now that Sailor Moon Crystal's 12th Act was titled QUEEN METARIA in roman lettering, and with plenty of other foreign words being spelled correctly, can we safely assume that her name is meant to be "Metaria" http://bit.ly/1MT56pr. It's the only official Japanese spelling of the name to date. Anyways, It has been a long time since I have posted, so I apologize for not remembering how to add the time-stamp to my signature. ~[[User: Fighter4luv|Fighter4luv]] 4 October 2015
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:It was "Metalia" in the Kodansha manga and the Viz subs, which seems pretty official to me. You can assume what you'd like, but the article title isn't changing. [[User:Kerochan no Miko|Kerochan no Miko]] ([[User talk:Kerochan no Miko|talk]]) 08:38, 4 October 2015 (MST)

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Didn't she come from the sun or something like that?--WikiSysop 00:39, 14 June 2006 (MST)

Possibly in the manga. In the anime her origin wasn't really explained, although there may have been some connection, since as she gained power there was an increase in sunspot activity. Dooky 00:41, 14 June 2006 (MST)
I'm almost positive in the manga it said she came from the sun, yeah.--WikiSysop 01:27, 14 June 2006 (MST)

Metalia Endymion? *snickers* Sorry that just sounds so funny. Is that really what they call him? XD --Sakky 17:10, 20 September 2006 (MST)

I got that off the PGSM cast listing, but I don't know why anyone would be surprised when anything from the live-action series is silly. I mean, just look at it... Kerochan no Miko 17:16, 20 September 2006 (MST)
Actually I don't think he's got a name in the series. Anyone got a better name? BTW, PGSM may stand for "Parental Guidance Silly Moon". 210 18:22, 20 September 2006 (MST)
The only other thing I could think to call him is Dark Endymion or maybe Evil Endymion, but neither of those sound much like official names.--Sakky 19:16, 20 September 2006 (MST)
Or "Evilmion" (as per "Darkury"). lol Yeah, there's no official name. 210 02:56, 21 September 2006 (MST)

Metalia's glowing red pillar tower...thing first appeared in Act 19 of PGSM, but was mentioned before that. Since the actualy whatsis appeared in 19, that's what I went with for first appearance, since, y'know, that's about as much of an appearance that Metalia has. Kerochan no Miko 20:36, 1 October 2006 (MST)

I think they should at least get Sawai to play Metalia instead of just voicing the Metalia Youma (or even better, to dress like what she did in her idol photobooks while doing so :P). --210 22:06, 1 October 2006 (MST)

[Edit note forgotten to enter before saving] The original info is correct - it's from the official Toei site. --210 21:09, 6 March 2007 (MST)


Sorry, but why is there no anime section? Animenokyouran 00:26, 20 February 2008 (MST)

Because no one has added info into that section yet - maybe you could? ^^ --210 05:27, 20 February 2008 (MST)
There is an anime section, there's just no information in it yet. And since the point of a wiki is to contribute information, you're completely welcome to put some in there rather than just complaining about a lack thereof. Kerochan no Miko 08:11, 20 February 2008 (MST)


I think Manga Section should be put before Anime Section. Anyway, I'm trying to add some content to Anime Section. (This unsigned comment was left by Lixiaofossil, April 1, 2010)


I reviewed the First Season, but didn't find any detailed information about Queen Metalia's origin. Luna, Artemis, even Endymion just say "Prople on earth had been controlled by an evil energy called Metalia". So I suggest change Queen Metalia's origin in "Anime" sector to "not clearly explained".

--Lixiaofossil, April 4, 2010

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Ok, Naoko Takeuchi insisted that her preffered spelling was 'Metaria' not 'Metallia' or 'Metalia'. I have no problem with the spelling used on this wiki (although i am partial to the spelling Metaria) but we atleast need to have a directory so that when one types in 'Queen Metallia' or 'Queen Metaria' it directs them to "Queen Metalia". Thank you. Sailor-Star-Lover 15:50, 12 August 2010 (MST)

Do you have a source for this supposed preference? --Kerochan no Miko 17:30, 12 August 2010 (MST)
I think the fact that she chose to write it as "Queen Metaria" in English in the 2003 re-release that she painstakingly re-edited expresses a pretty strong "preference" for that spelling.
Oh dear, here we go again... actually, wait, Naoko wrote "Metaria" in the kanzenban, and yet Kodansha chose "Metalia" for the English re-release? That's strange. Anyway, please sign your comments on talk pages, otherwise it's difficult to follow discussions, not to mention the fact that you're supposed to identify yourself. Silver (talk) 06:27, 18 October 2014 (MST)

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I love the picture of her from the manga, but if someone could upload the picture in the following link to the anime section that would be great.

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thanks Sailor-Star-Lover 15:50, 12 August 2010 (MST)

Okay, so I could be wrong, but is this supposed to be Metalia in the anime? WaterKnight 13:14, 21 December 2010 (MST)

(Changed image to a link since it was kind of huge.) I think they kind of implied that the big smudgey monster was supposed to be Metalia but I don't remember anything specifically said about it. Kerochan no Miko 13:36, 21 December 2010 (MST)
I think I remember Beryl calling out "Metalia" to it.. I thought the page could use an anime image. The only other one I could think of was that creepy flesh thing that Beryl talked to a lot. What the heck is it supposed to be? WaterKnight 13:50, 21 December 2010 (MST)
Do you have a better quality image? That one looks kind of like a VHS screencap and I'd rather not use it in the article...
I always got the impression that the blobby thing Beryl was talking to was the semi-sealed (or at least wounded) form of Metalia -- like something that was holding her. IIRC when she was powerful enough she broke free of it and looked like the smudgey monster for a second before possessing Beryl. Kerochan no Miko 13:58, 21 December 2010 (MST)

"Metalia" vs. "Metaria"[edit]

I would say the name change might not be nessecary because it is very likely that Ms. Takeuchi originally aimed at a pun on "metal" (considering most of the character names have to do with various geological/chemical stuff), but yes, it's "QUEEN METARIA". Reprint manga volume 3, pages 6 and 8 (one of them is the volume's TOC, another is the chapter title page itself). I don't know whether or not a note in the trivia section would be sufficient, or it needs something more.

Incidentally, it appears that they originally spelled "Phantom" in "Death Phantom" as "FANTOM". At least if the Japanese Wikipedia is to be believed. However, my copy of the manga clearly shows "PHANTOM" (reprint volume 5, pages 6 and 142). So they apparently fixed "FANTOM" yet didn't fix "METARIA"? That might mean that that spelling was deemed more accurate... --YnK 02:25, 29 June 2011 (MST)

This is the spelling that is used on this wiki. It is not up for discussion. Kerochan no Miko 02:32, 29 June 2011 (MST)
Not arguing. But will still add a note, because I assume ignoring things completely is also not right; whichever spelling we use here -- and I'm saying again that "Metalia" makes more sense to me -- it would be rather odd to avoid even mentioning a spelling found in, you know, an official source. ^_^; --YnK 02:44, 29 June 2011 (MST)
I don't think I understand what you're talking about, then. Kerochan no Miko 02:47, 29 June 2011 (MST)
...Nevermind, I made a Trivia section for that note. I do realise people tend to get annoyed at me because I spend more time asking than doing anything, though. -_-; --YnK 03:07, 29 June 2011 (MST)

So how long is this obvious translation error going to persist on this wiki? Why is it not "up for debate" when it's clearly completely wrong and only being maintained out of stubborness? The latest reprinting of the manga is the THIRD printing that maintains the only english rendering of the character's name as "Queen Metaria." I think after twenty years, Naoko Takeuchi knows how to spell this characters name right, better than a bunch of fans insisting on "correcting" her. The Death "Fantom" thing was corrected in the second printing of the re-release, for crap's sake. (This unsigned comment was left by ‎68.106.220.231, 27 January 2014)

Hello, anonymous contributor, and thank you for your polite and well-reasoned commentary. In the two and a half years since that comment was last made, the official English-language translation of the manga was released by Kodansha, and in that release the name was spelled "Queen Metalia". If you have a reason why we should not be using a spelling that came from an official English-language release of source material, as is this wiki's policy, please feel free to explain it. Kerochan no Miko (talk) 23:30, 27 January 2014 (MST)
Actually, what they got wrong the first time, Anonymous Contributor-san, was the "Deth" (Death) part in "Deth Fantom". "Fantom" seems to be an alternative and perfectly valid spelling, though Ph- looks a lot cooler than F- in this particular English word IMHO. :) Silver (talk) 10:00, 6 December 2014 (MST)

Should this article name be fixed now that Sailor Moon Crystal's 12th Act was titled QUEEN METARIA in roman lettering, and with plenty of other foreign words being spelled correctly, can we safely assume that her name is meant to be "Metaria" http://bit.ly/1MT56pr. It's the only official Japanese spelling of the name to date. Anyways, It has been a long time since I have posted, so I apologize for not remembering how to add the time-stamp to my signature. ~Fighter4luv 4 October 2015

It was "Metalia" in the Kodansha manga and the Viz subs, which seems pretty official to me. You can assume what you'd like, but the article title isn't changing. Kerochan no Miko (talk) 08:38, 4 October 2015 (MST)