Talk:Sailor Jupiter

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Please expand, expand, expand this. And help me fill in the character info box again. Can someone confirm for me that in the manga one of her dreams was to own a flower shop? This is what I remember but it's been a long time. I think she said sweets shop in the anime (the iron chef episode from stars?) Also, did we ever learn exactly how old she was when her parents died?--WikiSysop 05:05, 18 May 2006 (MST)

A flower shop & bakery, I am not sure if she means a combination, one or the other, or one of each though. GracieLizzie 05:10, 18 May 2006 (MST)
Interestingly, the anime never states that Mako's parents are dead. Even her anime stats list her family simply as 'unknown'. I remember the furore when Episode 91 was dubbed, and Mako mentions her mother (when in the original mentioned living on her own... ironically the closest the anime ever got to bracing the subject of her parents) Well, at no point did the anime (or, as far as I can tell, any of the reference material) ever state explicitly that her parents were dead. Might be worth mentioning this in a 'notes' section, since most anime bios I've seen of her just state flat out that her parents are dead. Dooky 05:19, 18 May 2006 (MST)
I'll edit and mention that.--WikiSysop 05:22, 18 May 2006 (MST)

On the violence & expulsion thing, is that ever confirmed as true in any of the Character guides or anything? I have often wondered if it was a complete rumour and people just assumed that, due to Mako's hight making her a target for ostracisation. GracieLizzie 05:36, 18 May 2006 (MST)

As far as I recall, Umino says that's the reason she's at the school. Her flashback in the R movie also confirms the violence. It's all tied into the height and ostracism, though, which is the argument we made. Each thing reinforcing the other.--WikiSysop 05:49, 18 May 2006 (MST)
Rereading the quote in the book, here's the problem. She's being violent, yes. However, it's likely a reaction to something else, like when she first defends Usagi. Hence they make the assumption that she's a violent person by nature, due to her height, and due to the fact that she fights back. But there's a difference between reacting and instigating. What's written in this article, that she's had to leave due to violence, is what I believe Umino says. What I imagined happening is that she'd react and completely trash her opponents, but she'd be the one who had to leave. It's a hard life, she's different, she probably doesn't have parents to defend her, the schools prefer just to pass her off.--WikiSysop 05:57, 18 May 2006 (MST)

I tried opening up the image in photoshop and received an error. Reupload it if you're able to open it on your PC; make sure it's a jpeg too.--WikiSysop 05:27, 23 May 2006 (MST)

I resaved it and the bug seems to have fixed. I must have not saved properly or something. GracieLizzie 05:48, 23 May 2006 (MST)

Do we really need to add the Parallel Sailor Moon children in the "family" section, considering that it's not part of normal continuity? Kerochan no Miko 12:22, 5 June 2006 (MST)

No. At the very least, it needs to indicate the continuity its from, but to be honest, Parallel Sailkor Moon isn't part of 'normal' continuity anyway, and I'd think twice about having it in the infobox at all. Dooky 14:53, 5 June 2006 (MST)

RiniKousagi, if you have a good reason to have that information in the infobox, please state it here instead of just reverting the page. Kerochan no Miko 12:30, 8 June 2006 (MST)

I can insert an image of the anime, because not is?

Sure, go ahead, just make sure the image is of good quality. Also, please sign your comments using four tildes (~). Elanorea 12:04, 22 July 2006 (MST)
I hosted the picture on ImageShack and inserted it into the article correctly, but it doesn't seem to be very good quality, or even an anime image at all, so I think we need a better pic here. Elanorea 12:38, 23 July 2006 (MST)
It's anime style, but I think we were using screencaps for the other senshi - I'm sure I at least have a better quality image somewhere. I'll look. Kerochan no Miko 15:14, 23 July 2006 (MST)

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These are pretty also ......

Yeah, there're so many beautiful img around. Too bad it's impossible to put them all here. We gotta be selective. And pls sign your msg by typing 4 "~"s at the end. ^^ 210 22:56, 23 July 2006 (MST)
They would be a lot prettier if they were higher-quality images. Kerochan no Miko 00:02, 24 July 2006 (MST)

^ Pls refer to your user talk page for the usage of ":" & how to sign your msg. : ) 210 22:06, 24 July 2006 (MST)

yes, me year already informed of this. however my name is Massimiliano and is Italian ......

You obviously didn't understand what we said, because you're still not signing your comments. At the end of every comment you put on here, type four ~ marks. That will sign your name. Please do it. Kerochan no Miko 11:57, 25 July 2006 (MST)
I used FreeTranslator to translate what KnM said, I hope he can understand this now.
Ho tradotto che ha detto usando un servizio di traduzione libero, spero che lei può capire questo:
Lei non ha capito ovviamente che abbiamo detto, perché lei tuttavia non firmano i suoi commenti. Alla fine di ogni commento che lei indossa qui, il tipo quattro ~ i marchi. Ciò firmerà il suo nome. Lo fa per favore. Elanorea 12:04, 25 July 2006 (MST)

There's also a World-Shaking-like attack. Anyone knows its name? Even tho it doesn't have one, I think it still warrants mentioning here as well as a separate article. 210 17:22, 31 July 2006 (MST)

What continuity? dooky 17:50, 31 July 2006 (MST)
Oh, sorry. PGSM. ^^; 210 18:09, 31 July 2006 (MST)
That's the non-CG attack with the line of flashpowder on the ground, isn't it? I don't remember it having a name... Kerochan no Miko 18:22, 31 July 2006 (MST)
Yup, that pyro attack. I also don't think it has any name. Just to make sure here. Anyway, it worths mentioning & a page (but how to deal w/ it if it has no name?). 210 18:34, 31 July 2006 (MST)
I've finally added it into this article. --210 18:30, 9 November 2006 (MST)

Is it "sempai" or "senpai"? Having both in the same article is confusing.... Kerochan no Miko 10:33, 14 August 2006 (MST)

Yeah, it's confusing, tho both are correct ("senpai" is actually pronounced as "sempai" in speech due to the "p"). But we should choose 1. If there're no official sources putting it otherwise, I suggest "senpai", as it seems to be more formal. 210 17:49, 14 August 2006 (MST)
Always written it as sempai myself (not a standard romanisation, but it does seem to be the most common one used). As the article uses sempai, we should probably stick with that in my opinion. dooky 17:57, 14 August 2006 (MST)
So it seems to be the simplest way to make it consistent. I'll make those minor changes. 210 18:09, 14 August 2006 (MST)

Sorry, I've to revert your edit, Sensei. Just think about it. If you're still puzzled, I'll give you the answer. ^^ 210 18:36, 16 September 2006 (MST)

Ok, would you want me to give the answer right away (& possibly spoil the fun), or give you some time to think about it? ^^ 210 18:43, 16 September 2006 (MST)

Jupiter Thunderbolt[edit]

In Jupiter Thunderbolt article it says that it's the new name for the first unnamed electric attack she uses in the manga, possibly to bring it in line with the attacks in the live-action series. It's the same with Sailor Mercury's Mercury Aqua Mist, I think. So, should be Jupiter Thunderbolt listed in manga attacks? Mercury Aqua Mist is in Sailor Mercury's manga attacks. Just suggesting before editing. E.Knight 00:41, 06 March 2007 (Spanish time)

Thank you for editing it, kero-chan no miko. I would have done it myself, but I wanted to talk about it first. Anyway, thanks ^^. E.Knight 23:55 March 10. 2008.
A small thing like that doesn't really need to be discussed first - especially since there was the existing precedent with Mercury Aqua Mist. That's why I just went ahead and did it. Kerochan no Miko 16:31, 10 March 2008 (MST)
Understood. I thought that maybe Mercury's article was wrong and nobody noticed XD but I understood. thanks. E.Knight 00:23 March 12. 2008.

Strongest of the Inner Senshi[edit]

If you mean that Sailor Jupiter was the "strongest in terms of attacks" in the anime, I agree (anime Sailor Venus is nothing like her manga counterpart), but I've always thought that Sailor Venus was the strongest of the Inner/Guardian (whatever) Senshi in the manga. Not only because she is the leader, but for some evidences. For example: when she first appeared, she was able to kill Zoisite when Mars's and Jupiter's attack proved to be useless.--Silver 17 15:27, 30 July 2009 (MST)

Venus also seems to be very strong in PGSM, both physically & in her beam attacks - guess she reflects her counterpart in the manga. --210 21:45, 30 July 2009 (MST)
Also in Codename: Sailor V, Adonis says that Sailor Venus is the strongest of the Guardian Senshi.--Silver 05:25, 15 August 2009 (MST)
Guess that's a reason why she's the Leader of the Senshi. --210 06:10, 15 August 2009 (MST)

Reordering attacks[edit]

Hm, Supreme Thunder was the first attack used by Jupiter in the anime and PGSM, but Jupiter Thunderbolt was used before in the manga, and Flower Hurricane was used even before. I thought I should change that since the attacks of the other Senshi are in order of appearance.---Silver 12:57, 16 August 2009 (MST)

I completely didn't see that there had been a comment left here.
That being said, though, Jupiter Thunderbolt was used first, even if it was only in the reprint, so it does need to be first on the list. Flower Hurricane could be moved up before Supreme Thunder, but since the unnamed first attack could have been intended to be Supreme Thunder (as it was in the anime and PGSM), I could see reasons to leave it as it is as well. Kerochan no Miko 17:39, 16 August 2009 (MST)
I propose this order: Flower Hurricane, Jupiter Thunderbolt (a.k.a Unnamed lighting attack of the "bring the storm" speech, uff that was a looong name for an unnamed attack), and Supreme Thunder. We talked about Jupiter Thunderbolt in another instance, but I'm saying that Flower Hurricane was the very first attack used by Sailor Jupiter. I'm sure you alredy know this, but anyway, here we go:
  • Luna gives the pen to her.
  • She transforms (without an henshin phrase) into Sailor Jupiter.
  • She beats Nephrite's Shadow.
  • She blinds Nephrite with Flower Hurricane.
  • She electrocutes him (Jupiter Thunderbolt/whatever).
    --Silver 18:07, 16 August 2009 (MST)

Costume Appearance in Stars arc[edit]

The article currently says that in the artbook(s), she's shown in her final form as having green wristbands with a star at the apex, but I own all of the artbooks where the senshi are in their "Star" form, and I don't see one of Jupiter like that...unless I'm missing it? I know Sailor Moon had that, but her wristbands were obviously magenta/red and had a crescent moon on them, not a star. What's going on here? Azurite 02:09, 17 March 2011 (MST)

Huh. I could've sworn I've seen an image with all the senshi with wristbands, but... maybe I'm imagining things because I looked at artbook 5 and I'm not only seeing that the senshi don't have wristbands, but even Sailor Moon only has them in one picture. Interesting. I'll keep looking, but I'm thinking the article is wrong. Kerochan no Miko 02:15, 17 March 2011 (MST)
Wait, I wasn't hallucinating! This picture has them all with the wristbands, but I think it's the only one. Another artbook inconsistency? Kerochan no Miko 02:18, 17 March 2011 (MST)
Yeah, I think that's the only image; Sailor Moon has the wristbands in a few more images, but not nearly as many images as there are WITHOUT her having wristbands. Azurite 02:43, 17 March 2011 (MST)
Right, that's what I'm seeing... Sailor Moon has them in about one in five images, but the others only have them in one, and it looks like that one came before all the others so maybe Naoko hadn't finalized the design yet? Probably worth a mention that the girls all had wristbands in one picture at least, but definitely not a standard thing. Kerochan no Miko 11:55, 17 March 2011 (MST)

Agreed. I figure since the image with all of them having wristbands is from the tail end of the SuperS/Dream arc, that's why it's the only image with them in it. The text on this page (and the others, actually; I just noticed the description on Jupiter's page first) should probably indicate just what you said: that in early designs, they all had the diagonal wristband/ribbon thing going on, but only Sailor Moon had it on a more consistent basis. Azurite 12:31, 17 March 2011 (MST)


I'm hearing Jupiter also introduce herself as "ai to yuuki no senshi" in the musicals. Pretty sure I remember just plain "yuuki no senshi" as well, but I'm not finding a source right away. Kerochan no Miko 03:04, 26 April 2011 (MST)

Another reprint manga/PGSM title. I can't check the manga at the moment, but she definitely used it there. Silver 03:12, 26 April 2011 (MST)
In the reprint manga Luna says this:
In the original she only says (from Alex Glover's translation): "We're allies, Mako-chan. We each have our own powers. You too, Sailor Jupiter."
And in PGSM Jupiter says "ikazuchi to yuuki no senshi." I also remember hearing "ai to yuuki no senshi," don't about just "yuuki no senshi" though. Silver 05:01, 26 April 2011 (MST)
So there're two versions of furigana for "雷". --210 08:45, 26 April 2011 (MST)
Yes, because it should be read "kaminari", right? Silver 02:26, 28 April 2011 (MST)
Actually, it can be read both ways, as it is in the different continuities. --210 08:36, 28 April 2011 (MST)
Yes, that's what I meant; "kaminari" in the manga and "ikazuchi" in PGSM. Silver 12:02, 28 April 2011 (MST)