Talk:Pink Moon Crystal

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Can we talk about whether the PMC is a separate crystal from the Ginzuihou? I know you've probably been over this a few times, but in the manga, it seems like she creates her own crystal from her tear. --Sakky 06:44, 14 March 2007 (MST)

It's not per the shinsouban clarification. --Hitsuji Kinno 16:40, 20 June 2007 (MST)
That's good to know, then - how was it explained there? Kerochan no Miko 17:01, 20 June 2007 (MST)
I'm correcting myself.. it was clear in both versions. The frames look like this: [1] Showing clearly that it's an evolution rather than a new crystal. (It comes from where the crystal is stored in her locket). There is an interesting debate that there are two ginzuishou dating back to about volume 7? But the problem with that is there are never 3 crystals in one frame at once, making the theory impossible, because of the properties of the ginzuishou.
1. The Ginzuishou will float to its user. Seen in the anime, and in the manga its shown in volume 3.
2. The Ginzuishou can levitate itself.
3. The Ginzuishou can follows the desires of its user. (It made Princess Serenity a Sailor Soldier as Usagi... it protected Tuxedo Mask, it reformed again when Sailormoon needed it.)
The scene being referenced (by Yumeko of ASMR) has Venus holding one of the crystals and then Moon holding the other, however in subsequent scenes we lose track of where the crystals are. (Are they in that magical ki fold that is often displayed with the items throughout Sailor moon... but clearly both of their hands go to the floor, allowing Small Lady to "summon" her crystal, i.e. the future crystal back to her.) Also note that throughout the SM series the crystals never actually *touch* each other which was the danger in the original, and one could even argue they've changed shape once Chibimoon possesses the crystal and makes it her own. This is because if the Ginzuishou follows the desires of its owner, then the Future Ginzuishou prior to Small Lady possessing it and making it her own would follow the desires of Usagi. The Past crystal also follows the desires of Usagi. Thus it's the same item. However the ginzuishou is now physically changed by Chibiusa/Small Lady when she claims the crystal as her own. It now follows *her* desires, which are clearly different from Usagi's, meaning that there is no temporal danger. Her tears reformed it, as did the tears to make it the Pink Moon Crystal.--Hitsuji Kinno 11:13, 4 July 2007 (MST)
Thx for the info. It's somewhat like a software constantly tailoring itself to the preferences & habits of its user. I envision that in the far future (if we had one), everyone will be carrying/embodying sthg functioning like it, just like today's cell phones. Talking about advanced technologies. lol --210 21:54, 4 July 2007 (MST)
I may have brought this up before, but this doesn't explain why Venus is still holding a Ginzuishou on page 61, well after Chibimoon and Moon have transformed (on page 32-33 and 36 respectively.) It can't be Moon's crystal, as she has already left to fight Nemesis at that point. I just don't see why Chibimoon would have taken the crystal out of her brooch and handed it back to Venus. Was that an error? (Anyone know if it was changed in the shinsouban?) Yumecosmos
Sorry for bringing this up yet again, but I think I may have finally found a somewhat official source. In the August 2008 Mailbox on the Sailormoon Channel website, a fan named "reichan" asked 幻の銀水晶は何個あるんですか, which I believe roughly translates to "how many pieces of Maboroshi no Ginzuishou are there?" The reply from "Luna" was as follows: うさぎちゃんとちびうさが1つずつ持っているわ。うさぎちゃんのは前世の記憶を思い出したとき、ちびうさのはセーラー戦士として目覚めたときに、それぞれ涙から生まれたの。[Usagi-chan and Chibiusa have one each. Each was born from their tears, Usagi-chan when she remembered her previous life, and Chibiusa when she awakened as a sailor senshi.] Source: Yumecosmos 22:47, 8 April 2010 (MST)

"Future form" changed to "more evolved form"[edit]

The old text said: "The Pink Moon Crystal was the future form of the Silver Crystal, which belonged to Chibiusa in the manga". I changed that into "The Pink Moon Crystal was the more evolved form of the Silver Crystal" because the term "future form" is confusing: it may make people think this evolution of her crystal happened in the distant future of Crystal Tokyo or something, when it happens in the present, while she's staying with Usagi in the 20th Century. Even if we go by the theory that Neo Queen Serenity passed her own crystal to ChibiUsa (instead of ChibiUsa creating a new one), saying that "the pink moon crystal is the future form of the Silver Crystal, which belonged to ChibiUsa" makes you think that the Crystal became the Pink version right when ChibiUsa received it, when we know for a fact she had it long before it took that form, since the Black Moon arc, or at least the Infinity arc (when she shows it to Hotaru).CosmicUsagi 22:52, 30 April 2008 (MST)

While I don't agree with your lines of logic here, I don't object to the change in this article for clarity. Kerochan no Miko 17:55, 30 April 2008 (MST)


It was a flashback! Like, "I took the Silver Crystal from your room, and as a result it was in the hands of Venus, you were in a crystal coffin, and Pluto died at all." (This unsigned comment was left by, 25 Oct 2018)

Is...this referring to something...? Kerochan no Miko (talk) 13:40, 25 October 2018 (EDT)
explain why Venus is still holding a Ginzuishou on page 61, well after Chibimoon and Moon have transformed -- 13:53, 25 October 2018 (EDT)
And you're bringing this theory up here because.....? Kerochan no Miko (talk) 15:19, 25 October 2018 (EDT)