Talk:Housenka
The names are swapped again. The blue one that attacks with supesonic waves is Suzuran and Housenka is the one who attacks by throwing red balls. Grape is correct though. - JMF 21:09, 05 December 2010 (MST)
- Not according to the Sailor Moon Memorial. What source are you looking at for this claim? Kerochan no Miko 14:20, 5 December 2010 (MST)
- I saw this on Fortunecity and Stardusting.nekomaki.com (a site dedicated to Sailor Moon that includes name etymologies and other things). - JMF 20:42, 6 December 2010 (MST)
- Okay, so you saw it on random websites and I saw it on an actual canon source. Therefore, this way is correct. Kerochan no Miko 14:48, 6 December 2010 (MST)
- I see. That's a video or a website...? JMF 09:07, 7 December 2010 (MST)
- As I said, it's in the Sailor Moon Memorial. Kerochan no Miko 07:13, 8 December 2010 (MST)
- Okay. So, how can we access to that video? - JMF 18:18, 9 December 2010 (MST)
- Um... Google it? This site isn't for providing links to fansubs and such. Kerochan no Miko 11:36, 9 December 2010 (MST)
- You've got to give me a link. Can't find it anywhere. Thanks. - JMF 20:22, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- ...dude, it's on YouTube. And it's not my responsibility to find sources for your research. Kerochan no Miko 15:13, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- I think it would be easier if you provide a source? If the video is real why can't you provide the link? Thanks for reading. --Guilherme Guerreiro 15:40, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- For what I understood the names of the three Youma were never mentioned unless these were written in some Japanese subtitles but, how am I suppose to understand Japanese? By the way, don't you think that the clothes of the blue Youma fit more the description of a lily-of-the-valley instead of the yellow-green one? - just check the images in Wikipedia. From the beggining, from the moment I joined Wikimoon, Suzuran was always the blue one. Only Grape and Housenka were switched. Grape is now correct but then Suzuran and Housenka were switched too and I think that is incorrect. - JMF 23:09, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- That's correct, it shows the youma on the screen with their names written in Japanese. Is there some reason why you think I'm making this up? Kerochan no Miko 20:11, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- I believe you. But try to get the point: Grape (which is correct) has a grape leaf on her right shoulder and her body is completely covered with vines; Housenka's (which I think is the yellow one) clothing fit more with the description of the balsam poplars leaves, the plants of the family Balsaminaceae and the Impatiens (a genus of flowering species usually known as "balsams" and "touch-me-nots"). This goes all back to the Housenka trivia, where the yellow one was standing; Suzuran (which I think is the blue one), again, fits the description of a lily-of-the-valley. You can check these images in Wikipedia. It makes sense. - JMF 12:07, 11 December 2010 (MST)
- Maybe it makes sense, but when a canon source says those are their names, then... those are their names. Kerochan no Miko 09:44, 11 December 2010 (MST)
- I see. Okay. - JMF 22:56, 11 December 2010 (MST)
- Just one more thing. I checked the names of the Youma in the Sailor Moon Memorial and maybe they are not matching the characters because I don't think the creators would... "create" their characters and then give them a name that doesn't even match to what the monsters are and how they look like (only Grape's name was according to her character). Just like I said above, it just doesn't look like they would name Suzuran to Housenka (which both names have completely different meanings) and Housenka to Suzuran. - JMF 10:47, 12 December 2010 (MST)
- JMF, it doesn't matter what you think "matches" the characters. It matters what names are given the characters in a canon source. I don't see any more reason to discuss this. Kerochan no Miko 09:09, 12 December 2010 (MST)
- Just one more thing. I checked the names of the Youma in the Sailor Moon Memorial and maybe they are not matching the characters because I don't think the creators would... "create" their characters and then give them a name that doesn't even match to what the monsters are and how they look like (only Grape's name was according to her character). Just like I said above, it just doesn't look like they would name Suzuran to Housenka (which both names have completely different meanings) and Housenka to Suzuran. - JMF 10:47, 12 December 2010 (MST)
- I believe you. But try to get the point: Grape (which is correct) has a grape leaf on her right shoulder and her body is completely covered with vines; Housenka's (which I think is the yellow one) clothing fit more with the description of the balsam poplars leaves, the plants of the family Balsaminaceae and the Impatiens (a genus of flowering species usually known as "balsams" and "touch-me-nots"). This goes all back to the Housenka trivia, where the yellow one was standing; Suzuran (which I think is the blue one), again, fits the description of a lily-of-the-valley. You can check these images in Wikipedia. It makes sense. - JMF 12:07, 11 December 2010 (MST)
- That's correct, it shows the youma on the screen with their names written in Japanese. Is there some reason why you think I'm making this up? Kerochan no Miko 20:11, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- For what I understood the names of the three Youma were never mentioned unless these were written in some Japanese subtitles but, how am I suppose to understand Japanese? By the way, don't you think that the clothes of the blue Youma fit more the description of a lily-of-the-valley instead of the yellow-green one? - just check the images in Wikipedia. From the beggining, from the moment I joined Wikimoon, Suzuran was always the blue one. Only Grape and Housenka were switched. Grape is now correct but then Suzuran and Housenka were switched too and I think that is incorrect. - JMF 23:09, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- I think it would be easier if you provide a source? If the video is real why can't you provide the link? Thanks for reading. --Guilherme Guerreiro 15:40, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- ...dude, it's on YouTube. And it's not my responsibility to find sources for your research. Kerochan no Miko 15:13, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- You've got to give me a link. Can't find it anywhere. Thanks. - JMF 20:22, 10 December 2010 (MST)
- Um... Google it? This site isn't for providing links to fansubs and such. Kerochan no Miko 11:36, 9 December 2010 (MST)
- Okay. So, how can we access to that video? - JMF 18:18, 9 December 2010 (MST)
- As I said, it's in the Sailor Moon Memorial. Kerochan no Miko 07:13, 8 December 2010 (MST)
- I see. That's a video or a website...? JMF 09:07, 7 December 2010 (MST)
- Okay, so you saw it on random websites and I saw it on an actual canon source. Therefore, this way is correct. Kerochan no Miko 14:48, 6 December 2010 (MST)
- I saw this on Fortunecity and Stardusting.nekomaki.com (a site dedicated to Sailor Moon that includes name etymologies and other things). - JMF 20:42, 6 December 2010 (MST)
The names are swapped. Suzuran is green and Housenka is pink. --User:Sailormoon1993 December 12, 2010 18:36 (PST)
- Sailormoon1993, please read all of the previous discussion on this talk page. The names are not swapped. Kerochan no Miko 20:33, 12 December 2010 (MST)
^Screencap from the Sailor Moon Memorial. Caption says (Youma) Housenka Grape Suzuran so unless someone has a scan from the Nakayoshi album to disprove then we're going with those being their names. Kerochan no Miko 19:59, 15 December 2010 (MST)
Um... I'm terribly sorry for reviving an old discussion, but I thought somebody might be interested in this picture. --YnK 11:55, 5 August 2011 (MST)
- What's that from? Kerochan no Miko 12:18, 5 August 2011 (MST)
- The settei section of the first Nakayoshi album. --YnK 12:24, 5 August 2011 (MST)
- That's about as official as it'll get, I'd imagine. Now that we have an official source, propose that the articles be swapped and this one be moved to Suzuran. Kerochan no Miko 12:53, 5 August 2011 (MST)
- Okay, since it is correct now... I agree with that. - JMF 23:23, 5 August 2011 (MST)
- A small extra note just in case (since we know at least one instance of inconsistent info between the guides): Suzuran's entry in the second album's glossary mentions the use of sound, and Housenka's entry mentions what it calls "seed-like bullets". --YnK 01:43, 6 August 2011 (MST)
- Okay, since it is correct now... I agree with that. - JMF 23:23, 5 August 2011 (MST)
- That's about as official as it'll get, I'd imagine. Now that we have an official source, propose that the articles be swapped and this one be moved to Suzuran. Kerochan no Miko 12:53, 5 August 2011 (MST)
